Flying Saucers are Real !

From UFO Conference this weekend, Sept, 9-10, 2007 - from Ted Elden


40 Years of Research by Stanton Freidman, Nuclear Physicist,

takes us to a very different place then the media with their 10 minutes of research.

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My Challenge to the Air Force ... I will debate the Air Force's best ANY TIME and ANY PLACE.
The UFO Challenge ... Flying saucers are real, the debunker's tactics, and the problem with the media.

When you see the tomes of data, witnesses, government, Air Force Blue Book reports on all this stuff, you cannot deny it.  The media can deny it, but people that look at the real information cannot deny it.

            AF Reports: Blue Book, Project Grudge,

Will you be lead by those that willfully deceive you or will you look for Truth ?

It is not that hard.  Charleston Truth Seekers is breaking the myths that bind us, 1 at a time.


Dr. Steven Greer, the Disclosure Project, has gathered 450 military & government witnesses to testify of their experiences with UFO, downed craft, bodies.  This was presented to national media & Congress at National Pres Club in Washington D. C. 2001 – yet the media will not report is, except form the Idaho Observer. (I have their book & video)


Frank C. Feschine, Jr. – Book: Shoot Them Down  

STD (orders given to the Air Force in 1952) The Flying Saucer Air Wars of 1952  shows intro pages to book.


Most amazing is the Air Force’s Battle in the Skies over America in 1952 shown in his 17 years of research.

UFO craft, in ball of flame, landed in Flatwoods, Braxton Co. W. Va. Sept 12, ’52, claim witnesses (Mrs. Kathleen Mays family +others).  they investigated and saw unknown hover craft.  The following day, skid marks showed trace of landing.  Government ordered National Guard (Col. Dale Leavitt) to take 180 troops to one site, 60 to another to collect samples of soil, woods, etc. Mrs. Mays was flown to NYC to appear on nationally televise We The People to tell of her sighting. The battle, and lost of planes & pilots, continued until the USAF quit attacking the UFOs.


In 1990, Feschine was visiting relatives in Flatwood W. Va. when he learned of the landing there Sept 12, ’52.  After 17 years of research, one thing leading to the next, he has found 40 sightings that same evening around the eastern seaboard.  Plotting the times, locations and direction on a map, a military aid showed him that the points were interconnected.  The paths show there were 3 objects traveling about the US, evidentially wounded from attacks by AF jets when they over flew Washington D.C. area.

Later other alien or unknown craft came to their aid to meet (& repair) the craft, and get them air borne and away.

His 6’ by 6’ map shows all these landings, times, and is interconnected with the many flight paths.


Feschine in STD book shows the USAF was keeping newspaper clippings of the Braxton Co. / Flatwoods monster (landing) even 11 years after the event. (from the World of Flying Saucers by Donald H. Menzel (debunker also on Majestic 12 list) and Lyle G. Boyd.


STD book give 1,000s of references, like showing sighting in North Carolina where the rescue object descended.

Daytona Beach Morning Journal 16 Sept. ’52 “Lost Pilot was from Sanford AF Reports."

The lost jet was an F94, all weather fighter-interceptor, one of AF’s elite jets.

Carrying state of the art radar & tracking technology. AF Historical Research Agency does not have records on this lost plane.


Sanford Herald Newspaper 15 Sept, ’52 had front page article “Lt. John A. Jones reported missing”


Feschine’s exhibit at the UFO conference showed many contemporary newspaper headlines that clearly show that the USAF had order to shoot down any unidentified aircraft over USA that they could not talk down.  Evidently, from the records, many AF pilots & planes were lost; crashed, and some just vanished.


Blue Book listed 124 cases as unknown origin for Sept. 1952


USAF was given orders to “Shoot Them Down” at this time. 

The Air War over the USA lasted until the USAF qit trying to Shoot Them Down.


Lockheed F-94C Starfires & North American F-86D Sabre Jets (650 mph)

Jets carried 1000 lbs of electronic gear, smarter than the human brain, able to lock on to targets and bring down the biggest bomber ever built.
Major Keyhoe wrote Flying Saucers from Outer Space.

He noted a saucer had been photoed during simultaneous radar and visual sightings.  It as solid object, controlled disc shaped machine, moved at 400 knots, against the wind.  Also reports in NY Times, Assoc. Press.


True Magazine notes that “More than 300 times, Air Force interceptors planes have chased mysterious lights and unidentified objects revealed by radar scopes,” Donald Keyhoe stated, “week after week, jet fighters are ‘scrambled’ at points around the country to ‘saucer chases.”

AF Major General Ramsey was ‘saucer man’ to dispel the public from this fascination.


August Blue Book listed 27 unknown cases that involved Air Force Base sightings & UFOs


Project Grudge was a short-lived project by the U.S. Air Force to investigate unidentified flying objects (UFOs). Grudge succeeded Project Sign in February, 1949, and was then followed by Project Blue Book.


Project Blue Book From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Project Blue Book was one of a series of systematic studies of Unidentified flying objects (UFOs) conducted by the United States Air Force (U.S.A.F.). Started in 1952, it was the second revival of such a study. A termination order was given for the study in December 1969, and all activity under its auspices ceased in January 1970.

Project Blue Book had two goals: to determine if UFOs were a threat to national security, and to scientifically analyse UFO-related data. Thousands of UFO reports were collected, analyzed and filed. … Project Blue Book was ordered shut down in December 1969. This project was the last publicly known UFO research project led by the USAF.[1]

By the time Project Blue Book ended, it had collected 12,618 UFO reports …  The UFO reports were archived and are available under the Freedom of Information Act, but names and other personal info

rmation of all witnesses have been redacted.

Though many accepted Blue Book's final conclusions that there was nothing extraordinary about UFOs, critics — then and now — have charged that Blue Book, especially in its later years, was engaging in dubious research, or even perpetuating a cover up of UFO evidence. Some evidence suggests that not only did some UFO reports bypass Blue Book entirely, but that the U.S. Air Force continued collecting and studying UFO reports after Blue Book had been discontinued, despite official claims to the contrary.



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